FAQs

Okay, so there have been a lot of questions asked and rightfully so. Here is a FAQ list which should answer a lot of the questions, but if there is some more than comment and I will try and respond in the comment section.

How much will it cost?Frame and Bars?
The frames should cost the same as a normal high end Taiwan frame, I am doing the best I can to keep the costs affordable, but still retain the quality. The bars should be available some where in the next 7-10 days. They are currently on their way to the distributors and only the Color and Triumph bars will be available. There is a medium bar being tested at the moment and should be coming by the first of the year.

Where can you get them?
All the products will be available at any BMX bike shop or mailorder. Basically where any good BMX stuff is sold

When are they coming out?
The frames are currently in the first prototype stage, so it might be a bit before they come out. There is one more prototype to be made before I can go into production. My best estimates have them coming out before spring time. Sorry I don’t think they will be available for Christmas.

Who are your distributors?
US-Blackout Distribution, www.blackoutdistribution.com/ CANADA-Ryder Distribution, www.ryderbmx.com / ENGLAND-Seventies, www.seventies.co.uk / AUSTRALIA-BMX International, kbarling@bmxinternational.com.au / GERMANY-Sport Import, bhellwig@sportimport.de / JAPAN- Motocross International, motocross@popll.odn.ne.jp

What are the sizes? Any random sizes?
Right now the idea is to have 2 frames based around rear end length. One is 13.75in while the other is to be 14.25in. Then there will be a number of top tube lengths. There is going to be a 20, 20.5 and 21 in the 13.75in rear end. Then there is a 20.5 and a 21 in the 14.25in rear end. My plan is to be adaptive, so there will be some random sizes made from under 20, the inbetween sizes and an over 21. I just need to get the frames dialed before I start making all the other sizes, but who knows.

How will the Gyro tabs be mounted?
Since I do a bike shop, I realize how difficult it is to order a frame because there are so many different frame options. From the 4 types of bottom brackets to where the brake mounts are, there are so many options that it makes owning a shop a nightmare. My whole plan is to eliminate one choice by offering removable gyro tabs just like the tabs on the Kink Frontloader stem. The stem’s tabs has been modified by a number of frame companies to create removable gyro tabs.

What is the weight of the frame?
The prototypes are weighing in at around 5.5 pounds. The newer prototypes should be a little less, but if you can’t lift on extra ounce, you might want to rethink riding. And if you are a little kid the size you are riding will be way less than 5.5 pounds.

What are the colors going to be?
What a tough question, it is funny how everyone is all over the place with what colors they like. But this is good because there is something for everyone. I am not sure at the moment what the colors will be. Just keep talking about what color you like and it might get done.

What is the warranty on frames?
Even more tough questions, as of the moment the warranty is still in great debate. I will let you know what it will be when as soon as I can.

Can you give us some dropout details?
It would be great to be able to tell the details or maybe show a side profile of the dropout, but do you know how fast the BMX industry takes to corrupt and copy ideas? Well, if you are a certain company, it only takes 2 weeks!

How are your Wombolts doing so far?
So far so good, but it has only been a week. They slide well on crankslides and I can actually kickflip again.

How does a gusset overheat?
I have no idea what you are talking about?

Sunday Frame updates!


Okay so here is my bike, yep I know it’s all purple!

Close up view of the headtube with integrated headset. The frames are only going to come with integrated headsets and removable gyro tabs. The headtubes are machined after welding to take care of any distortion in the headtube.

Here is the gusset that will help prevent your frame from cracking. This is in response to all the frames that don’t have gussets or have minimal ones like my old frame. I am not too sold on the idea of smaller tubing and no gussets for weight savings. Its lighter but how soon does it crack?

The internet has been calling for this one for awhile, so I guess this shows how much I am on the internet. Both the cable guide and the brake mounts are angled to allow for a straight pull of the brakes. What is ironic about this, is that I am the only one on the team that runs brakes, huh?

Seat tube junction area is much different from other bikes. Most companies pinch the end of the top tube where it meets the seat post tube. This weakens the top tube and tends to break especially during tailwhips. The frame allows the top tube to wrap around the seat post tube thus improving the side to side strength.

Close up view of the mid bottom bracket area. As with the headtube, the bb is machine again after welding to take care of any distortion in the bb shell. This is to allow your push/press fit bb to actually be push/press fit. Look closely and you can see the Wombolt cranks that I just put on.


Okay so what is going on with the dropouts here? If you have been on bikeguide you heard some speculation. And for once it was actually correct! The dropouts are 8mm wide, but are as light as a 5mm and have the twice the strength of a 6mm. How you ask? Because they are hollow, so they are light and strong. Now when those 3/16 dropouts bend, there is a new alternative to go to. Oh yeah there is a radius edged on them to prevent them from digging into rails and slowing you down!

This is the card that was hanging next to the frames at Interbike. Basically it summarizes all the features of the frames.

Frame Pics!!!!


The samples with a bunch of color choices. It is great to make samples because you get to try colors you may never do. The 2nd from the end is a gray and if you can’t tell the rest, they go purple, red, green, gray and blue.


Headtube closeups with the TEMPORARY graphics. There are going to be temporary prototype graphics with the names of the riders handwritten in.


Another close up with the sample purple bars that match the frame, obviously. There are also going to be some purple forks lurking around real soon.

Well, I promised pictures and I delivered, only a few days late. This has been a dream of mine for so long, it is so surreal! I can remember talking ideas as far back as 1990 when Homeless was doing there thing. I was so inspired that I had everything drawn out, but no understanding of constructing a frame. Too many ideas, but no way to actually get one manufactured. At that time it seemed so possible to make it happen, everyone else could do it so why not some random kid from Buffalo, New York? But, it wasn’t until 15 years later that it has become a reality.

So far everything looks good to me, lets see how testing goes. Most of the guys should be on frames sometime within the next week, so be on the look out. As I said before, these aren’t as cookie cutter as people might think. I am going to wait until after interbike to explain the details. If you are going, then you get to talk with me about them otherwise you will have to wait until next week.

New Team Rider!!!!!!

The Sunday team has grown a little bit, Ohio native and brakeless/pegless shredder Ian Schwartz has joined the team. His riding was described as pegless, but he didn’t just do peg tricks without pegs. He went out and made up different tricks. I think that really describes his riding. Just check out his System video part and you will see. In fact, check out the upcoming Roadfools and the Micreation trip in the next Shook to see more. This is getting good!

Sunday Frames?

Okay, so everyone has been wondering what is up with frames. Sorry for keeping everyone in the dark, but I finally have some information. The best news I have is that I should have the prototypes in sometime next week and I might have some photos today or tomorrow. So I will post those as soon as I get them.

I imagine you are wondering about the frames. Are they like my old Kink frame? How much can you change a frame? When are they going to be available? Are we making an urban mountain bike? Well, you probably weren’t wondering the last question! To make it clear NO mountain bikes. Let me just say the frame is not a cookie cutter copy of other frames out there. On the surface, it may seem that way, but you didn’t look deep enough. I can’t say too much more, but you will hopefully be able to see photos by later this week and you will see a frame at Interbike, if you are going.

thanks,
jim

Vinnie Sammon gets Ride cover

In sort of older news, Vinnie does a wild move for the Skavenger video and his 2nd Ride cover. He is on the cover of the October 2005 issue, so check that out if you haven’t already. Incidently, it is his 2nd cover doing some sort of X-up grind. I have always been a fan of Vinnie, so that is why he is on Sunday now.

Metro Radness or Madness


Photo:Adam Banton

Sunday rider Mike Hoder leaves the rink the “hard” way. This isn’t really just a gap to flat, he had to clear the glass, but not smack his head on the top of the tunnel. Rumors had that he wanted to do it again, but the beast shut it down.


Photo:Adam Banton

Well here I go again, I never said I was smart, it was everyone else. I couldn’t think of anything new to do and I just learned how to get into crossfooted stuff. So why not combine it with something I already know, right! I didn’t pull it, but a little more height and some extra head turn, who knows! I was happy just walking a way because I kept raking my shin across the top tube when I would crash.

The Story

There are many names I could call the Metro Jam, some are the Metro Traffic Jam or the Metrosexual Jam. Whatever you want to call it, I was still going to go, so Adam Banton met up with me in Seattle and we were off. This is the 3rd year for the event in Vancouver and it couldn’t be any better. If you have never been to Vancouver, please do yourself a favor and go. I don’t think you will be disappointed.

I really don’t feel like giving a complete run down of the tricks that went down, but I will just give an abbreviated version. Dave Osato did a three-whip bunnyhop into the snowplow, Gary Young almost double whipped out of the wall ride, Brian Kachinsky toothpicked the fence and Morgan Wade whipped to fufanu on the sub rail. Hell there is so much that went down! The box jump was the best because it made today’s staple tricks difficult. Only a few people whipped it and Morgan Wade was the only 720.

It was most unfortunate for myself because the rails were sticky, again! That sucks because there was a lot of people who could have thrown down some stuff. Caleb Rucker over grinded to hop back over on the double kink. Davey Watson was working on a lot of stuff, but who knows what could have been done. Aaron Ross 180ed out mid way down the kinker. Josh Harrington gapped to hangover toothpick which was nuts because it was so far. I ended up opposite hangover toothpick to crankslide on the lower section of the kinker. Good stuff went down, but again who knows. We will just have to wait for the Vans rail contest after Interbike.

It is so weird that I think nothing else could be done after qualifying, but I am always wrong. The last group of Gary Young, Morgan Wade, Alistair Witton and Josh Harrington was INSANE! I was thinking alright what else can be done and they showed me. Please do yourself a favor and go witness this next time! You won’t be disappointed!

Josh Harrington won the contest and best trick with a manual to barspin onto the rail. While, Dave Osato won best trick during the contest with a three-whip bunnyhop into the snowplow. And I hate flying on holidays when all my friends are barbecuing.

Sunday Bar Specs

Close up of 41 Thermal logo on back of Color bars.

The name of the bars came from the shop almost being called Color.

COLOR BAR:

RISE — 7.25 inches
WIDTH — 23.45 inches
BACKSWEEP — 12 degrees
UPSWEEP — 4 degrees
WEIGHT — 1 lb. 7 oz.
COLORS — New colors coming soon

FEATURES — Lightweight 41-Thermal processed butted chromoly tubing.
Lifetime guaranteed against bending and breaking.

Full view of Triumph bars.

Triumph was also a possible name for the shop.

TRIUMPH BAR:

RISE — 8 inches
WIDTH — 28 inches
BACKSWEEP — 12 degrees
UPSWEEP — 1 degree
WEIGHT — 1 lb. 10 oz.
COLORS — New colors coming soon

FEATURES — Lightweight 41-Thermal processed butted chromoly tubing.
Lifetime guaranteed against bending and breaking.

Sunday Forks Specs

Morning and Night Fork share same graphics.

Closer view of dropouts and graphics.

Sunday top cap with 6 and 8 millimeter hole.

Close up view of radius on dropout.

MORNING FORK:

WEIGHT — 2 lbs. 4 oz.
DROPOUTS — 3/8″ slots with 4 mm thickness
COLORS — Coming soon

FEATURES — Lightweight 41-Thermal processed butted chromoly tubing.
Lifetime guaranteed against bending and breaking. 7075-T6 aluminum
pre-load bolt accepts 6 and 8 mm allen wrenches. Dropout has rounded edges to
facilitate rail/coping tricks. Fork leg is notched at an angle for improved
clearance.

NIGHT FORK:

WEIGHT — 2 lbs. 8 oz.
DROPOUTS — 14 mm or 3/8″ slots with 6 mm thickness
COLORS — Coming soon

FEATURES — 41-Thermal processed butted chromoly tubing with increased
steerer tube and dropout thickness. Lifetime guaranteed against bending
and breaking. 7075-T6 aluminum pre-load bolt accepts 6 and 8 mm allen
wrenches.

Welcome to Sunday Bike Company

Okay, so the Sunday Bikes website is “here.” Well, not really but you will be able to find out information about the goings on here. So check back often for random stuff.
See you soon,
jim

Team

US
Vinnie Sammon
Ian Schwartz
Mike Hoder
Eli Platt
Karl Poynter
Jim Cielencki

International

UK
Joe Cox
Mike Taylor

Germany
Christian Ziegler
Dominik Wrobel

Products

Frames

Sunday

Forks

Morning

WEIGHT: 2 lbs. 4 oz.
DROPOUTS: 3/8″ slots with 4 mm thickness
COLORS: Red, Green, Gray and Black

FEATURES — Lightweight 41-Thermal processed butted chromoly tubing.
Lifetime guaranteed against bending and breaking. 7075-T6 aluminum
pre-load bolt accepts 6 and 8 mm allen wrenches. Dropout has rounded edges to
facilitate rail/coping tricks. Fork leg is notched at an angle for improved
clearance.

Night


WEIGHT: 2 lbs. 10 oz.
DROPOUTS: 14 mm or 3/8″ slots with 6 mm thickness
COLORS: Red, Green, Gray and Black

FEATURES — 41-Thermal processed butted chromoly tubing with increased
steerer tube and dropout thickness. Lifetime guaranteed against bending
and breaking. 7075-T6 aluminum pre-load bolt accepts 6 and 8 mm allen
wrenches.

Night w/ 990 mounts

WEIGHT: 2 lbs. 8 oz.
DROPOUTS: 14 mm with 6 mm thickness
COLORS: Black

FEATURES — 990 brake mounts with 41-Thermal processed butted chromoly tubing with increased
steerer tube and dropout thickness. Lifetime guaranteed against bending
and breaking. 7075-T6 aluminum pre-load bolt accepts 6 and 8 mm allen
wrenches.

Bars

ALL bars feature lightweight 41-THERMAL processed butted chromoly tubing.
LIFETIME GUARANTEED AGAINST BENDING AND BREAKING.

Color

RISE: 7.25 inches
WIDTH: 23.45 inches
BACKSWEEP: 12 degrees
UPSWEEP: 4 degrees
WEIGHT: 1 lb. 7 oz.
COLORS: Red, Green and Black

Tudor

RISE: 7.625″ Center to Center
WIDTH: 24.5″
BACKSWEEP: 12 degrees
UPSWEEP: 4 degrees
WEIGHT: 1 lb 9.0 oz
COLORS: Red, Green and Black

Triumph

RISE: 8 inches
WIDTH: 28 inches
BACKSWEEP: 12 degrees
UPSWEEP: 1 degree
WEIGHT: 1 lb. 10 oz.
COLORS: Red, Green and Black